Fidel Castro:

Fidel responded to Russian writer Daniel Estulin, author of the Bilderberg Club trilogy, who is visiting Havana. He stated that in relation to the visitor’s belief that in order to solve many of its problems, humanity will have to emigrate to other planets.

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With great difficulty, human beings have landed on the moon, an
inhospitable satellite. Beyond that lie Jupiter, Mars, Neptune, Venus and
the other planets, which basically equate to dust clouds, incandescent
ovens or ice.

The conversation between the leader of the Revolution and the writer was a
profound, fascinating dialogue that lasted more than 90 minutes, every one
of which was of surprising intensity.

THE SURVIVAL OF THE HUMAN RACE

“The obligation of all human beings is to ensure the survival of the
entire human race. The Bilderberg Club wants to exclusively ensure the
survival of its own species, an authentic minority,” affirmed Daniel
Estulin after the formal introductions.

“You wrote very beautiful things about your grandfather,” Fidel remarked.
“I loved my grandfather very much. He was a very special man. He was a
well-known doctor, a surgeon, in Lithuania. My grandfather was from Crimea
and during World War II, on just one day, the Nazis killed 11 of his
siblings, as well as his mother, his father and his 104-year old
grandfather. Imagine coming from a large family and the very next day,
being left an orphan.”

He lived through World War I, the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Civil War
and World War II. “At some point, in the chaos of the war, he lost track
of his family. His wife and three children – aged eight, five and three
years old – were captured by the Nazis, sent to a concentration camp and
exterminated,” he recalled.

Estulin explained in detail to Fidel the history of his family, who
emigrated to Canada in 1980 – it was there that he and his grandfather
were reunited – of his pilgrimage through various countries of the world,
and of his Sevillian wife. He has lived in Spain for the last 17 years.
Although he was born in Lithuania, he is Russian, as is his mother tongue.

The Comandante was impressed with how fluently Estulin spoke Spanish. “I
write in English for convenience, because most editors speak that
language. My books have been published in more than 50 countries. I’ve
been told that you read in English…”

“In Spanish with difficulty…” Fidel replied jokingly. But he does read
many original English language texts translated into Spanish. One example
he gave was Lincoln: “A biography by U.S. writer Gore Vidal. It is
incredible how one man can reconstruct the whole atmosphere of that time
and compare it to what is happening today.”

MILITARY BASES IN LATIN AMERICA

“They’re at war with Chávez because, against all odds, Venezuela is still
one of the few countries in the world where there are no U.S. military
bases. And they hate Cuba for the same reason: its independence. In Cuba,
they cannot destroy the concept of ‘nation-state’, in my opinion the most
important concept of the last 600 years,” affirmed Estulin.

“You left out Ecuador, which had a base in Manta for 10 years and they
succeeded in removing it. There are bases in many other countries. Within
a matter of hours, they can place troops in any nation,” Fidel observed.
“As if they were branches of McDonalds,” said Estulin, ironically.

“With respect to direct bases, they have Guantánamo, they have the
Malvinas…And in the other countries, they might seem not to have them but
in reality they do. They engage in practices and exercises. They don’t
have any in Venezuela. Colombia is a country converted into a base. They
have them in Honduras. They don’t have them in Costa Rica but they do have
40 vessels there, included aircraft carriers, ‘nobly’ helping in the war
on drugs. It’s completely cynical…” added Fidel.

For Estulin, the upcoming elections in Venezuela are crucial. It is not a
case of two ideologically exclusive tendencies facing each other at the
polls. Sources linked to the U.S. State Department have confirmed that –
after the demonizing of Hugo Chávez and the Bolivarian process – there is
a plan to install military bases in that country, which will not be
possible with the sovereign and Latin Americanist policies of the
Venezuelan leader.

The conversation continued on this subject and the challenges facing the
new National Assembly that will emerge from the elections on September 26,
which will see the return of an opposition that is out of practice in
terms of legislating because of the years that it has remained outside of
the process in its attempt to boycott the Bolivarian government.

Chávez – who recently paid a visit to Havana – is optimistic, confirmed
Fidel and is working tirelessly on the peace process with Colombia. “He
sleeps a little during the day and works all night long.”

But the world that Fidel is visualizing – and he says it himself – is not
that one, a world of electoral conflicts. “In my opinion, the empire is
going to fall. If there is a war, the whole world will fall. Our struggle
is for no war, but not at any price. This is not about imposing
conditions. There will be no war if nobody pulls the trigger, which is now
in the hands of Obama, who is not a warmonger. As Israeli journalist
Jeffrey Goldberg says, in his analysis of Bush: ‘I don’t personally expect
Obama to be more Bush than Bush.’”

AL QAEDA

They commented on the string of attacks in Iraq the previous day.
Sixty-two people were killed on the very same day that the U.S. troops
officially left Baghdad. Fidel raised the question: “Who is in control
there? There is also the situation in Afghanistan; there are some very
interesting things related to what you wrote about Bali – the 2002 attack
on a nightclub. That attack was attributed to Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is
another mystery that is being uncovered.”

The Comandante en Jefe confirmed that he always had his suspicions about
Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. “Every time that Bush went out to instill fear and
make a big speech, Bin Laden appeared saying what he was going to do and
making threats. Bush was never lacking in support from Bin Laden. I seemed
line a tableau and it was Wikileaks that demonstrated that he was,
effectively, a CIA agent. They proved it with documents.”

Estulin commented that high-ranking U.S. officials and intelligence
services in other nations have acknowledged that the last time Bin Laden’s
voice was heard was on December 21, 2001. “Since then, he has disappeared.
Since that date, he has been replaced by a bad actor who dresses like him
but doesn’t even look like him.”

RUSSIA IN THE SIGHTS

Once again, as in his conference with national colleagues the previous
evening, Estulin took up the central thesis of his exposé: “The objective
of the Bilderbergs is to destroy Russia as a military power and China as
an economic power.” And he thanked Fidel again for including excerpts from
his books in his recent Reflections, because, “They cannot silence what
you say.” “It wasn’t always like that,” clarified the leader of the
Revolution.

The journalist stated that the world superpowers are aware that the only
state capable of militarily standing up the United States and destroying
it is Russia, and emphasized that there is a third plan, the Barbarossa –
as the Nazi invasion of the USSR was known – against the current Russia.

The Russian writer reiterated that the final objective of this whole
montage, including a possible nuclear war, is to destroy Russia, the great
military enemy of the United States. “Russia has the potential to wipe the
USA off the face of the earth. It has much more powerful weapons that
those that the U.S. arsenal might possible contain at this moment in time.
For example, the P-7000 Granite, an intercontinental ballistic missile
with a nuclear warhead of 500 kilotrons. It is launched from a submarine.
It flies at a speed of 2,983 kilometers per hour. There is nothing in the
world faster than that. The fastest U.S. aircraft flies at around 2,600
kilometers.

“There has been no talk about that,” Fidel commented. Estulin said, “They
are extremely afraid of it. It is a fact that the Kursk nuclear submarine
– sunk in the Barents Sea on August 12, 2000 – was carrying these weapons.”

That is one element to take into account when considering that “my
country, Russia, is the Number 1 military enemy of the United States.
Right now they are building 13 super-secret bases in Afghanistan and each
one of these is larger than any other U.S. base in the world, and there
are already more than 700. They are not building them to attack Iran but
Russia’s southern border.”

Estulin has documented information on the strategic weapons aimed at his
country, the plans for Afghanistan, historical precedents, and the
collapse of the USSR.

Fidel listened to him very closely. “Accumulating more than 25,000 nuclear
weapons isn’t for sane people. All of that was passing through my mind
while you were speaking, and I was asking myself where it’s all going to
stop. That was exactly what I wanted to discuss with you. I have devoted a
lot of time to reading and collecting information. We dedicate all our
time to informing ourselves, while those who make decisions than can
determine the lives of millions of people are disinformed.”

ATOMIC MINI-BOMBS

The history of small-format atomic weapons dates back to the end of the
1950s or the early 1960s, for pacific use. Estulin explained, “When
engineers wanted to open a pass through a mountain to build a tunnel, for
example, they realized that there wasn’t a high enough quantity of
dynamite to do so. So then they began to use controlled atomic energy. The
military industry realized that it would also serve to kill people. Third-
and fourth-generation weapons emerged from there.

Some of these weapons can be the size of a baseball. But there are two
ways of constructing an atomic bomb: with uranium or with plutonium. The
difference is the critical mass: that of uranium is more or less 50-52
kilos of the critical mass while of plutonium it is far less. The
Hiroshima bomb was uranium and that of Nagaski, plutonium.

According to Estulin, terrorists have never had access to uranium bombs
because, “we haven’t seen an explosion like that of Hiroshima since 1945.
Terrorists do not have the technology to produce mini-nukes. Only the
United States, Russia, France and Israel can do that.”

IN THE SIERRA MAESTRA

The bombs dropped from Batista’s airplanes, Fidel recalled, were sometime
of 500 kilograms, and opened a large hole, but did not destroy many
houses. “They fell, buried themselves and exploded,” Fidel added. “In the
case of atomic bombs, the mushroom cloud and fire are two unmistakable
signs accompanying them. I don’t remember that happening in the Sierra
Maestra.

“They destroyed, without any doubt, but not in those apocalyptical
dimensions of the nuclear bomb. “Once they launched two 500-kilogram bombs
on us and I went to see them: they had damaged a little bit more than half
a hectare, but there was no fire. We were about 100 meters from the place
where they bombarded. They more or less knew where we were, because we had
the enemy troops surrounded, there was never any fire. And they dropped
bombs on us! That was the first we had to deal with, 20 minutes after
starting any combat action.”

The Batista Army used those weapons very well, because the United States
had trained them. “They used B-26s, as well as a kind of fighter plane
with 8 machine guns and they had some Hunter Jets, three in all, two of
them we used afterward to defend ourselves during the mercenary Bay of
Pigs attack (1961). Those Jets were handled by pilots who were taken
prisoner for refusing to carry out Batista’s orders and had been tried and
punished for that.”

The Comandante en Jefe commented that all the dynamite used by the Rebel
Arm in the war was taken from unexploded bombs. “Our people learned to
uncover them and pull them out. We made contact mines with a little torch
battery… Sometimes we would put in 20 kilograms of TNT and that could turn
a light tank upside down; it could completely destroy heavy ones.

Fidel’s memories traveled back to the fighting methods of the Rebel Army,
based on respect for dignity, the humane treatment of prisoners, and
ethics in confronting an enemy which totally lacked that values. “No
soldier is going to hand himself over if he knows that they are going to
kill him. It was the simplest thing in the world for us to put out of
action an army trained by the yankis, which came to consider itself
invincible.”

Without abandoning the subject, Fidel asked Estulin what his argument was
in response to people who challenge his investigations, specifically in
terms of the effect of radiation where mini-nuke explosions had allegedly
taken place.

According to the journalist, even in the language of those writing about
the explosions one can find indications as to what produced them, although
the most obvious evidence such as the effects of radiation on the people
affected in the short-, mid- or long-term is concealed.

“For example, Fidel insisted, “Who is interested in the Oklahoma
explosion?” The writer’s response prompted him to move on to interests
beyond that of the U.S. presidency, which nobody reaches without being
approved by those interests.

Estulin believes that the plans of the world elite are to exterminate
surplus humans on a planet whose population is growing at a faster rate
than the availability of resources in many regions.

Fidel only noted: “Humanity will have to resolve the issue of renewable
energy…” and after commenting on the drama provoked by the forest fires in
Russia, recommended to the journalist the documentary Home, which focuses
on the challenges of human survival.”

THE BATTLE IS FOR THIS PLANET

Estulin posed the question of whether humanity could still be on this
planet in 50-100,000 years’ time. For him, the response is: No. “There
will be too many of us. The only alternative is that, through progress and
development, we colonize the moon, Mars, space and assure ourselves that
billions of humans can survive, and that for me is immortality.”

“What you say about human progress is correct,” Fidel replied, “But in my
view, life is going to unfold here, on this planet. There is no atmosphere
on Mars, the Moon and the other planets of the solar system. Your theory
is absolutely right in the sense that humanity has to preserve itself in
order to live for thousands of years, thanks to progress.

“But we have to fight against the forces that are preventing this
progress.” And Fidel gave one example: “It is calculated that life began
on this planet around four billion years ago, more or less. Oil began to
be formed more or less 400 million years ago. Humans are wasting in less
than 200 years the oil accumulated over 400 million years… The atmosphere
cannot resist that consumption.”

Estulin affirmed his agreement. “I think that all of us have to fight as
much as Fidel for the survival of the species…”

The author commented that many people believe that we have reached the
point of no return, and that we have to stop dead. “The dangers are very
great,” Fidel observed.

Estulin gave his books to Fidel and wrote as a dedication: “We shall win
the war when the power of love exceeds the love of power.”

Fidel read it silently and then said out loud: “We will win the war by not
waging it.”